Update 09/06/13 - OKS, Bug Fixes and Skill Tweaks
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Suppose it that I am not "hardcore mir" I think its a game cant spend too much time here. Try denying that you didn't have to fight for bosses. Try denying that ts without flinch isn't so hard with stacking suns which are easy to get and a pot mule. Try denying that there were advantages to being on the server early. You cant. I always suspect the top level are supplementing their income by playing mir.(nice work if you can get it) Happens on a lot of servers. Wonder when the credit card warriors will turn up here. What will be sold first? Cynical true. Realistic also.
who changes code and then doesnt test it, i mean who doesnt just go and use 100-100Dc/Mc/Sc item to test whether their %ages on a skills damage are correct? you only have to use the skill ONCE to know that. why dont they have an offline test server they are checking on before implementing on live server?
Its primary school stuff. No offence, but its a f*ckup and they know it.
This, so much this. Feedback is good, moaning is not.
Cross post from the other threads
It's fairly simple, there are about 4 of us that work on the files full time. Out of the 4 of us we all work approx 40 hour weeks each, that's not including travel time to and from work.
Let me make it clear. You guys are the testers. We do what we can, we cannot and will not catch every issue before it occurs.
FlameField/TDB/CHM will be fixed in reboot on Wednesday.
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sorry to sound like we are moaning a hell of alot mate, it is because we care after all.
this is the best server i have played since ragezone and the only 1 that has made me look forward to playing after 3 weeks.
this is the best server i have played since ragezone and the only 1 that has made me look forward to playing after 3 weeks.
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This is Mir, your never gna stop getting moans, you and your team being the creators are gna get moans left right and centre from players, it's the same on every server, the GMs are gna get it in the ear, learn to deal with it, or pack up, don't ignor your playerbase even if all they do is moan... There soon find another server to play...
Except we are listening, there is a mid week reboot to allow us to fix the issues people are complaining about. We'd of packed it in long ago if the moaning was going to kill us. We can and do deal with it. But you're not going to see us getting involved in it, we'll comment when things are known and we'll get things done. Just like we have since the server went live.
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I dont know where you have got this from. We never shout recruiting in town or anything, and have been invite only for a while. We arent arsed about numbers, we just have a good grp that get on TS together and get on. TF are surely the biggest guild now, as it seems most of the disbanded KiS members flooded to them massively increasing their numbers in the space of 1 day.
You'd be surprised. And clearly haven't worked in software development
So Barclays don't test in an offline model?
So London Underground Oyster department don't test in an offline model?
So HMRC tax and revenue don't test in an offline model?
Your making sweeping statements that are simply not true.
They made some mistakes. some easily avoidable ones. they are not bugs, they are silly mistakes.
They are getting a high level of negative comments because its as plain as day.
Theory > Testing > Implementation.
Its not moaning
lift your hands up and say "we did something silly, we didn't test our changes" , its called being responsible and honest and frankly I'm more disappointed at their inability to make such a simple statement, then the mistakes they made.
we are NOT testers ... you needed 100 people to spend 4 days testing a skill that you could just use once to know doesn't work how you intended? LIES. I'm calling straight LIES and inability to admit error.
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How old are you? Or are you grown prick? Don't know time to lay off?
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Randomizing bosses by some ten minutes +|- won't do much if anything if you don't combine that with randomized locations.
But you'd have to get away from the old traditional picture of KR where the boss sits on throne
I would like to see the bosses spawn at random spots on normal full sized floor like khazard does as an example, so not only there wouldn't be set time but also location would be uncertain. Some bosses don't have fixed location but the floor or room is fairly small (like woomataurus for example) and that that's not what I have in mind.
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Randomizing bosses by some ten minutes +|- won't do much if anything if you don't combine that with randomized locations.
But you'd have to get away from the old traditional picture of KR where the boss sits on throne
I would like to see the bosses spawn at random spots on normal full sized floor like khazard does as an example, so not only there wouldn't be set time but also location would be uncertain. Some bosses don't have fixed location but the floor or room is fairly small (like woomataurus for example) and that that's not what I have in mind.
I'm making statements based on my own experience in this field. I can't speak for companies or departments for which I have no involvement, but equally I am certain that the areas I work in are not the only ones in the world in which people cut corners due to time and money constraints. You're very naive if you think that every piece of professionally-written software out there is tested rigorously enough to prevent bugs as bad as the one here (and worse) from slipping through the net.
And of course, for my bank, or anywhere that deals with people's money, I would expect a much higher degree of testing than, oh I don't know, let's say a random game server run by a couple of people in their spare time, which exists for free and soley for my benefit. I tend to be a bit more forgiving for the latter
You are applying standards that are, in my opinion, unreasonable to expect from people doing this in their spare time. They have already said that this would be fixed on Wednesday. That's a much faster turnaround than you'd get from submitting bugs for a lot of other software out there (professional or otherwise).
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lol its no coincidence that all these company's you mention deal with real life money, and our team deals in..a private server game. there is no correlation between the two.
having to wait another 3 days for a minor fix i'snt a biggy, iv waited longer for major fix's from major games company's.
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Seems like you and your team carnt really be bothered atm tho? I mean your players need answers, and yet none of you are replying to anything, it don't look good, and puts a lot of people off, would be nice to hear from at least 1 of you now and then
id rather not people pester them 24/7 for a reply and use that time to get actual **** done, than replying to people moaning.
Err, doesn't the fact that you're a replying to a post of his right now kind of discredit what you're saying?
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They don't owe you anything, they're using their spare time and spending their own money to provide this service.
I don't know how some people can be so ignorant.
They have been working on a fix for Wednesday (tomorrow), how is that them not been bothered? Total opposite if you ask me.
They all work and also have other real life commitments... they're not like Ben who doesn't work, and makes profit from his servers.