What are devs doing to improve QOL for wizards?

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140 is highest iv hit with lightning and that was with red poison, with 40 mc.

150-200 is inaccurate, purely because there is maybe only 1/2 wiz with enough MC to hit anywhere around there.

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Slipmatt said:
To an assassin with 200hp at level 31 and a wiz hits you for that type of damage yes it is a significant amount if damage! A wiz with kit on and half decent kit is likely to lightening for between 150-200 so believe me when I say it's stupidly strong.
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ROFL wtf r u smoking dude? wat has a 31 sin got to do with it haha were talking bout 43+ wiz they shud be able to kill lvl 30s in 2 hits lmao. 150-200 it hits around 100 that's not stupidly strong its not a spell you can LAND CONSECUTIVE HITS with so its not that good for pvp and completely USELESS for lvlin cos how mobs ai is on here.. if anything it needs to be even stronger along with buffs in damage for T bolt,Frost crunch, flame disruptor and ice storm u shud not be able to outpot a half decent mc wiz landing consecutive hits over n over gain.
 

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Not many people out pot me without sun pots, only warriors really. I have 16-55MC w/o tao buff and can pack a strong punch, with red poison and EU I sometimes see lightnings hitting 170+

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Raider said:
Not many people out pot me without sun pots, only warriors really. I have 16-55MC w/o tao buff and can pack a strong punch, with red poison and EU I sometimes see lightnings hitting 170+

/Xele
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yeh that's fair enough you have the highest mc ingame??? wat kinda damage wud a war similar dc do?? probs 300 average wiz wont ever do that that with red pois too red is Mega strong on this server more so than usual point is a war in SHOP kit with a gaxe can still do half my hp with tdb on a lvl 43 whereas me in better than shop kit cant do fkin diddly squat to them lol without a doubt this is a completely Melee dominated server! and something needs to be done cos eventually 80% will be wars.
 

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the main issue for wizzies in pvp is tigernecklaces. they need a nerf. other than that wizzies give me a hard time to get near them if they use their skills correctly. and apparently im fast. if you get hit tho and you dont have a tigernecklace on youre gonna keep getting hit. if youre having problems then youre either bad. the other person has better gear. or youre outnumbered/getting focussed in fights. if anyone should be moaning about their class its archers. the moment they stop to attack, theyre dead in most cases. although there arent many on the server at the moment and cant say ive fought any of the good ones (tigerneckies affect them also?).
 
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davey_boyy said:
ROFL wtf r u smoking dude? wat has a 31 sin got to do with it haha were talking bout 43+ wiz they shud be able to kill lvl 30s in 2 hits lmao. 150-200 it hits around 100 that's not stupidly strong its not a spell you can LAND CONSECUTIVE HITS with so its not that good for pvp and completely USELESS for lvlin cos how mobs ai is on here.. if anything it needs to be even stronger along with buffs in damage for T bolt,Frost crunch, flame disruptor and ice storm u shud not be able to outpot a half decent mc wiz landing consecutive hits over n over gain.
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Lmfaoo it needs to be stronger? Mate sit the **** down! Stop whinging about your class and actually learn to use one properly, **** me! If you think lightening needs to be stronger you are as backward as I originally thought!! Lightening has already been buffed since AceM2 it was already strong there!!, FF with around 80mc on ace? Was doing around 200damage.. Xele just proved he can get 170+ hits with mc 45 and you think it needs to be stronger? Lmfao!!!

Gems are soon going to be coming into play, aswell as new items which we do not know the stats of obviously going to be better than current ones. So you seriously want it buffing? **** me you need to go play high rate servers.

As for landing consecutive lightning hits, a wiz only needs to rep(obv if they're lower)/lightning and same again it's not too hard.

And please explain to me why you think wizzies should be able to floor level 30's in two hits? I remember at level 32 on a warrior on euro and was battering 40+wizzies all over.
 

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This is an interesting thread, it's just a shame that despite Sam repeatedly demonstrating how much thought has been put into balancing the classes and justifying why it wouldn't actually be wise to just buff lots of wizards' spells, people are still banging on demanding buffs to this, that and the other.

1. Wizards have ALWAYS been weak damage wise vs other classes until mirroring, FF, blizz and meteor - fact. However, once they get these they're probably the strongest class for pvp, maybe joint with tao.
2. Lightning does hurt - when a target is redded it does what, 70/80 damage? And it's an AOE spell.
3. Wizards have never been able to out-damage the effects of pots on someone standing still with ease until they get the uber spells mentioned in point 1.

It's been like this since Euro. Wizards only 'balance out' in this sort of thing at very late game, but I think part of the problem is that now you've got other classes like archers and sins who have completely changed the concept of 'DPS', wizards are seeing this and thinking hmm i wouldn't mind a bit of that.

With Magic Shield no longer being as rare as it was (which is good as it's absolutely necessary for wizzies) I've noticed wizzies handling themselves a lot better, both in pvp and pve. Wizards dominate pve and always will and do get better late game for pvp, as we're already starting to see. If they get buffed you'll end up with a class that not only out-levels everyone else but is also uber for pvp. Something has to give, and I don't actually think it's as unbalanced as people are making out, but people need to be patient and wait for the 40+ spells and wait til they get more MC, which will take time but as I say it's always been this way for wizards.
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+ to this post and if the team want to buff wiz then i want them to buff warriors also as every class is stronger than warriors atm
 
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