TDB not piercing defence anymore?

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The team don't see the problem but when you get wizards tanking warriors saying get more dc i feel there is a problem.

Pretty much given up on me warrior now any ways.

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Il be honest abouts 2 nights ago, you nearly 3 hit me on a lvl 42 warrior, you killed Gruntle whos like 44warr and 2 hit a lvl 48 wiz... And you don't have the best of kits Tango. I also play a warrior and cant see whats wrong to be honest.
 

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as close to euro as possible...

Why is clone damage being ingored? why are auto sun pots being left in? these are 2 major factors on why wizards are currently dominating the server, they been reported weeks ago and still nothing has been done.

Don't be shocked to see nearly every warrior re roll to a sin when they come out.
 

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Why is clone damage being ingored? why are auto sun pots being left in? these are 2 major factors on why wizards are currently dominating the server, they been reported weeks ago and still nothing has been done.

Don't be shocked to see nearly every warrior re roll to a sin when they come out.

Don't forget double cast times on certain skills like let's say FF, what bollox is that..
 

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My opinion and the opinion of the team can be different... Generally when I post I am speaking on behalf of a discussion that we have had with the team and the answer is generally a synopsis of that discussion we had...

TDB not cutting AC and being spam-able was the deciding vote of the team before the restructure... After the restructure of the teams the deciding vote for AceM2 is that this is going to be as close to euro as possible... However my stance on x1.2 over 1.5 is the same (mir2resource got it wrong).

As for the files I plan to provide an option to include an AC check if the server owners want it...

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You could just solve all problems, make it a 3second cooldown but back to how it originally was in terms of cutting AC/Shield.

Then just simply remove the AC cutting potential against bosses.
 

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You could just solve all problems, make it a 3second cooldown but back to how it originally was in terms of cutting AC/Shield.

Then just simply remove the AC cutting potential against bosses.

TDB should not have a delay! Why should wars have a delay in TDB and wiz have double cast speed on FF? How is that fair?
 

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TDB should not have a delay! Why should wars have a delay in TDB and wiz have double cast speed on FF? How is that fair?

This topic is about TDB not FF that's why it's being brought up here and very little said about FF.
 

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This topic is about TDB not FF that's why it's being brought up here and very little said about FF.

Stateing the obvious here mate, why should warriors always get penalised on there skills? Like I said a wiz should die in 2-3 hits if a warrior can get close to strike
 

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I re-rolled from a Tao to a warrior a few weeks back now, I have now decided that I can no longer stand warriors due to how well to put it simply **** they are. Warriors tdb not cutting AC/shield should never have been introduced, why change something that has worked for numerous of years? Taos have owned warriors ever since day one, that's how it should be unless the warrior is skilled and knows what he/she is doing, as for wizzies, warriors have always dominated them wizards are suppose to be scared of a warrior! A skilled wizard can take out a warrior in no time at all but if they screw up they would be dropped its as simple as that, why should warriors be changed to suit a wizzy when there FF is doing 120/150+ damage at 1.5seconds cast speed? I fought a wiz with FF the other day and all it took was for him to cast it, take one step forward, cast again and I was done for.. When I was managing to get a tdb/FS on them it was hardly doing anything and by the time they took another step and FFing their health was full! There's no way a warrior can compete with that! If there were two FFers chances are a warrior is going to die in maybe 3 or 4 seconds flat! That should not be the case fair enough it's meant to hurt but how are warriors suppose to compete with other classes? We're pretty much useless in my opinion! :/
 

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makes me laugh that u warrs are winging that your not strong enough yet i see a majority of you boasting that you can 1/2 hit a tao/wizz. its all bs if u ask me

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I re-rolled from a Tao to a warrior a few weeks back now, I have now decided that I can no longer stand warriors due to how well to put it simply **** they are. Warriors tdb not cutting AC/shield should never have been introduced, why change something that has worked for numerous of years? Taos have owned warriors ever since day one, that's how it should be unless the warrior is skilled and knows what he/she is doing, as for wizzies, warriors have always dominated them wizards are suppose to be scared of a warrior! A skilled wizard can take out a warrior in no time at all but if they screw up they would be dropped its as simple as that, why should warriors be changed to suit a wizzy when there FF is doing 120/150+ damage at 1.5seconds cast speed? I fought a wiz with FF the other day and all it took was for him to cast it, take one step forward, cast again and I was done for.. When I was managing to get a tdb/FS on them it was hardly doing anything and by the time they took another step and FFing their health was full! There's no way a warrior can compete with that! If there were two FFers chances are a warrior is going to die in maybe 3 or 4 seconds flat! That should not be the case fair enough it's meant to hurt but how are warriors suppose to compete with other classes? We're pretty much useless in my opinion! :/

thats bull **** theres plenty of warrs that are 1 hitting wizzies/taos, even sum in our own guild are doing this. infact gruntle 2 hit my wizz today with shield up.
 

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makes me laugh that u warrs are winging that your not strong enough yet i see a majority of you boasting that you can 1/2 hit a tao/wizz. its all bs if u ask me

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thats bull **** theres plenty of warrs that are 1 hitting wizzies/taos, even sum in our own guild are doing this. infact gruntle 2 hit my wizz today with shield up.


I ain't got the best dc only 11-75 but never ever two hit a wiz with shield up!
 

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Stateing the obvious here mate, why should warriors always get penalised on there skills? Like I said a wiz should die in 2-3 hits if a warrior can get close to strike

You realise if it was back to it's original power, it would 1hit/2hit wizzies without doubt? That's why it would need a delay.
 

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Ridiculous MC + clone and faster casting speed and auto sunpots....how do warriors have a chance? Warrs have to get right next to their target by running.....but you cant run as clone never misses. Warrior needs to be able to hit quickly if they do get next to the wiz...but shift doesn't work properly??

I'm **** enough as it is without making the imbalance between classes this big, but I used to kill waaay more wizzes on euro with a lvl 35 war with a terrible PC comparatively...I can barely get close on here. Levelling up a wiz and tao because I wasted time with my warr! and I HATE WIZ AND TAOS!!

The fact is wars may be able to drop wizzes quickly if you give 1.5 TDB and make it armour piercing...but so what? Wizzes have more spells, can solo more bosses to get better kit, cast faster, clone hits harder,auto pot with 20+ sunpots....the advantages are endless.

Give me an advantage of being a warrior? Or tell me 1 plus point to being warrior? Name 1!! I challenge you.
 

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Ridiculous MC + clone and faster casting speed and auto sunpots....how do warriors have a chance? Warrs have to get right next to their target by running.....but you cant run as clone never misses. Warrior needs to be able to hit quickly if they do get next to the wiz...but shift doesn't work properly??

I'm **** enough as it is without making the imbalance between classes this big, but I used to kill waaay more wizzes on euro with a lvl 35 war with a terrible PC comparatively...I can barely get close on here. Levelling up a wiz and tao because I wasted time with my warr! and I HATE WIZ AND TAOS!!

The fact is wars may be able to drop wizzes quickly if you give 1.5 TDB and make it armour piercing...but so what? Wizzes have more spells, can solo more bosses to get better kit, cast faster, clone hits harder,auto pot with 20+ sunpots....the advantages are endless.

Give me an advantage of being a warrior? Or tell me 1 plus point to being warrior? Name 1!! I challenge you.

We can carry more sunpot bundles :P
 

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Why is clone damage being ingored? why are auto sun pots being left in? these are 2 major factors on why wizards are currently dominating the server, they been reported weeks ago and still nothing has been done.

Don't be shocked to see nearly every warrior re roll to a sin when they come out.
Clonde damage will be looked into, I have added this to the list already.
 

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If your going to have a ridiculous cooldown on TDB, make sure you set FF to normal cast speed aswell, I really don't see why warriors are getting penalised for there skills when wizzies are running round with a stupidly hard hitting skill at twice the cast speed
 

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If your going to have a ridiculous cooldown on TDB, make sure you set FF to normal cast speed aswell, I really don't see why warriors are getting penalised for there skills when wizzies are running round with a stupidly hard hitting skill at twice the cast speed
There will be no cool down on TDB.