Regarding swampduck issue.

[+ULFBERH+T]

i have all the details for this including real QnA and email...

i removed all kit from it and gave it 30k pk points and quit server its as good as deleted anyway dont know why this is still going on lmao

The whole server including Staff knows this isnt you account, your the criminal in all this.
This effects every player, we need to know our accounts are secure and the process of recovery works, All this shows is we are all Vulnerable.
It needs to be addressed asap.

All you have done in that post is admit you have abused another players account.

 

[d1craig]

i have all the details for this including real QnA and email...

i removed all kit from it and gave it 30k pk points and quit server its as good as deleted anyway dont know why this is still going on lmao

So you have access to the email account follower (most say they know it's his account) used to create the account?

its just silly this character was sold. Don't by know who sold it or who bought it but... Why would you now want a character that has a reputation worse saddam Hussein?

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Why not just add an activation email upon account creation?

 

[Hastelloy]

This effects every player, we need to know our accounts are secure and the process of recovery works, All this shows is we are all Vulnerable.
It needs to be addressed asap.

Vulnerable to what exactly? Maybe i missed something in this thread but i don't understand what all the hullabaloo is about? There was a time when a little blue message would regularly pop-up on our screens, even way back when we were all new to the game, that message read something along the lines of; "Never share your passwords with anyone".

In this case, the original owner of the account shared his password with his family irl, the account was then used and then shared with further people, later on in the game. Now, after it has been played with by more people than a Thai prostitute, it is no wonder that the inevitable has happened.

I don't see the issue, possibly it's just me. Don't share/sell accounts, Use decent passwords, use really random nonsensical secret qna but write the answer down i.e. on a bit of paper behind a picture frame or something and you will be fine. The process for recovery is fine and imo the only people that i see are vulnerable are the people who put themselves in the position to begin with. That being said i still think that GM should keep a record of the original emails used to create the account but on the other side of that, they are here to police the game ffs not police Person A who sold his char to person B then decides he wants to take it back 5months later.

Or did i miss something?

 

[Follower]

i have all the details for this including real QnA and email...

i removed all kit from it and gave it 30k pk points and quit server its as good as deleted anyway dont know why this is still going on lmao

I already knew i wasn't getting the account back, you're a joke in yourself.

The purpose of putting this on the forums was to make people aware that the 'staff' if you could call them that. Are no better than the players playing the game.
Going on past events, you are JustinBieber, correct?

Time and time again it has been stated that you're friends with Sam irl, I'm pretty sure i read on here that you confirmed that on TS with KingTony?
Firstly when the spurt of bannings occured and then you were mysteriously unbanned and forgotten about...
Secondly with regards to this account. The only way you would have the original QnA is if someone gave them to you or they got changed along with email address.

I don't see the issue, possibly it's just me. Don't share/sell accounts, Use decent passwords, use really random nonsensical secret qna but write the answer down i.e. on a bit of paper behind a picture frame or something and you will be fine. The process for recovery is fine and imo the only people that i see are vulnerable are the people who put themselves in the position to begin with. That being said i still think that GM should keep a record of the original emails used to create the account but on the other side of that, they are here to police the game ffs not police Person A who sold his char to person B then decides he wants to take it back 5months later.

Or did i miss something?

You're playing a private server, for free, you wrote all your QnA's down?

I have no qualms with the fact the account has been shared previously. The issue is that the email was changed and for two months I was lied to being told it hadn't been changed, to then be told that there is a "paypal receipt" for a sale of account and the email was changed.

I emailed Sam around the end of Jan, he knows exactly who I am and that I am the true owner of this char. We've had a few previous dealings regarding the characters avatar and Swampduck. I received no replies from Sam at all. This whole situation has been stretched out in the hopes i would probably forget.

Did you read the thread with the conversations between BH and I?
The only thing i'm fighting here is the fact that the email was changed, nothing else.

It states in their own Rules/Conduct that they do not get involved with sales of accounts. To change an email goes against their own rules. If they can do this for me, they can do it for someone else.
All emails were leaked in a newsletter. The files were hacked at the start of the server (most of the people i know changed their passwords at this point for fear of getting hacked). Almost everyone likes the facebook page using their real names. It wouldn't take a genius to figure out someones details in this day and age.
You don't need to have shared your account to fall victim to this situation.

 

[Hastelloy]

You're playing a private server, for free, you wrote all your QnA's down?

I have no qualms with the fact the account has been shared previously. The issue is that the email was changed and for two months I was lied to being told it hadn't been changed, to then be told that there is a "paypal receipt" for a sale of account and the email was changed.

I emailed Sam around the end of Jan, he knows exactly who I am and that I am the true owner of this char. We've had a few previous dealings regarding the characters avatar and Swampduck. I received no replies from Sam at all. This whole situation has been stretched out in the hopes i would probably forget.

Did you read the thread with the conversations between BH and I?
The only thing i'm fighting here is the fact that the email was changed, nothing else.

It states in their own Rules/Conduct that they do not get involved with sales of accounts. To change an email goes against their own rules. If they can do this for me, they can do it for someone else.
All emails were leaked in a newsletter. The files were hacked at the start of the server (most of the people i know changed their passwords at this point for fear of getting hacked). Almost everyone likes the facebook page using their real names. It wouldn't take a genius to figure out someones details in this day and age.
You don't need to have shared your account to fall victim to this situation.

Of course i always write down QnA's to everything, it was actually because of Mir2 that i started. Dont know who else here might remember the fiasco that was the great password reset back around 2003/4. Basically i lost my chars and even though i had the original emails/confirmations/subscription payment bills etc etc when i didnt recieve my password they refused to send a new email because i couldn't give the secret answer (mainly because they didnt give me the secret question.. -.-) and so my beloved wiz Sephiroth and War Squall were lost to the DServer abyss . Changed to Taoism as a result to restore the balance in my life

Anyways nah i didnt read the thread, when i see multiple threads with similar titles i tend to read the ones that arent locked. My bad!. I was with you in Apex also so you dont have to explain anything to me pal

That's disappointing news, i didnt realise they had got involved in the sale of a char when they explicitly said they wouldnt. Hate to see GM's not sticking to their word Admittedly i completely forgot about the hacked server files as well. You know i've always had a strong dislike for Swampd*ck so my lack of sympathy is more towards your bro not yourself but i think that the GMs are now in a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't situation with regards to returning the account.

Lets be honest, from what you said there all that needs to happen imo is for GM's to allow players to change their QnA and/or emails if they send a request from the email registered to the account. Irrespective of paypal receipts etc. And stop facilitating the sale of accounts. This way, if any details are changed or lost it will be due to the actual creator of the account requesting the change/being irresponsible thus alleviating the 'staff' of any blame. Shame it will be a little too late for you though

 

[d1craig]

This all falls back to "selling accounts". If the team where not so oblivious to it this would never have happened.

Very dissappointing to hear that the email has been changed without the previous owner being told. Doesn't matter if the guy bought the account and can prove it. It's somethig that shouldn't be happening.

 

[ILovePie:D]

Skibadee's account was changed from it's original owner too. Sam was the original guy, and Reece wormed his way in and got the email changed on the account.

 

[Tai]

This all falls back to "selling accounts". If the team where not so oblivious to it this would never have happened.

Very dissappointing to hear that the email has been changed without the previous owner being told. Doesn't matter if the guy bought the account and can prove it. It's somethig that shouldn't be happening.

They're not oblivious to it. The idea is if you sell your account then you lose the right to reset the password (what the linked email address is used for)

 

[d1craig]

So we have a situation where the team says "we don't support account sales". But for atleast two people they have done everything they can to stop the account going back to tue original owner preventing a scam of the buyer but not of the seller.

So so account sales are now OK and everyone can do it with the safety of the GMs behind them once it is done? Or do you just have to be mates or offer some cash for the service?

 

[Tai]

The GM's stance on this has obviously changed a few times over the months.

 

[d1craig]

They're not oblivious to it. The idea is if you sell your account then you lose the right to reset the password (what the linked email address is used for)

Oblivious is the wrong word. Still not sure of the word I was after.

The point is account selling is either supported (email changed on proof of sale/buy) or not supported (no action taken, even still sending password resets to the previous owner should still happen).

Which one is it? Fron everything I have read it should be the latter not the former.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Oblivious is the wrong word. Still not sure of the word I was after.

The point is account selling is either supported (email changed on proof of sale/buy) or not supported (no action taken, even still sending password resets to the previous owner should still happen).

Which one is it? Fron everything I have read it should be the latter not the former.

Depends how friendly you are with the GM's. Unfortunately, this is life.

 

[reecew]

Skibadee's account was changed from it's original owner too. Sam was the original guy, and Reece wormed his way in and got the email changed on the account.

See how no one cares about your obsession...

i had what's needed paypal receipt and all the correct details.

 

[Razarus]

See how no one cares about your obsession...

i had what's needed paypal receipt and all the correct details.

Its more to the point that details WILL be changed to SUPPORT sale of characters, even though the official stance is that the server team do not support account sharing, buying or selling and will not get involved or intervene as its all done at peoples own risk.
The fact that they DO get involved and thus SUPPORT the safe transfers of accounts goes against their official stance.

I like that they do personally, but it needs to be either they do for all or do not for all.
and if they do, then a guide of whats needed should be provided so that future sales of accounts can come intact with all of the required details to confirm a safe sale.

 

[ILovePie:D]

See how no one cares about your obsession...

i had what's needed paypal receipt and all the correct details.

I wasn't using anything against you boyo, just showing people that account details have been changed for people.

We have the paypal receipt for kingtony, and all the chat logs to prove that KingTony doesn't belong to Tony anymore either.

Either the staff should get involved and change the details over for Tony, or Skibadee should be returned to Sam.

See where I am going?

 

[+ULFBERH+T]

its a big cluster fk, we all need to know where we stand.
From reading what the follower said the account wasnt sold and said receipts are fraudulent.
If any of us are hacked and then the hacker produces a false receipt, were all in trouble from what i can see.

If staff want to support account sales then do it properly and oversee the whole process, even take an "administration fee" if you must, at least everyone would feel more secure and know that sales have been open and above board.

 

[Slipmatt]

Account was shared and sold, what more is there to understand? Start a new character dont be lazy.

I do agree that emails/user/info shouldnt be changed regardless of the account being sold but unfortunately thats up to the server team and their opinions, what they think is best I guess.

Again it all comes down to account sharing, regardless of if they're family, friends or co workers if you do not think you can trust them enough or have a feeling something like this might happen then dont do it. Its the most simple solution to **** like this!

 

[Xx69xX]

its a big cluster fk, we all need to know where we stand.
From reading what the follower said the account wasnt sold and said receipts are fraudulent.
If any of us are hacked and then the hacker produces a false receipt, were all in trouble from what i can see.

If staff want to support account sales then do it properly and oversee the whole process, even take an "administration fee" if you must, at least everyone would feel more secure and know that sales have been open and above board.

Don't sell your account and you will know where u stand.

Followers account WAS sold, just not buy him.. This is why you do not account share, with randomers . He let someone he thought he could trust use the account, this was then sold. The GMs then (I would imagine) saw the PayPal account receipt and decided to help the guy out. I don't think its bad either way. But don't all be naïve, the GMs have not just changed the email for no reason lol.....

So with that in mind... Don't share/Sell account if you want it to ALWAYS remain yours.

How I see it is: If an account is sold, then the gms should change the email... I say this simply because selling an account for R/L cash just to recall it again is a disgusting thing to do, so I support the idea of changing Emails.. I think the main reason not to bother actually doing it, is because its a time waster, when instead of changing emails all day long, server team can get on with anything they actually need to..

 

[MCDONALDS]

ok just so that this thread can be closed...

sam is my friend, i spoke to him on FB he changed qna and email address over to mine hence why all these other ppl who had the original details cannot reclaim the account.
server team is corrupt as **** and im supried no one has actually realised this, sever is now at an endgame boring point which is why i quit ages ago i added the 30k pk points just to be sure account was unusable even if sam was found out and had to give the account back to original user after seeing all the cry threads. i am not original owner. swampducks a ****. all come play devolution c# mir

/JB

Please Close Thread

p.s. account was never even bought i got id and pass from joe evilwoman2 and just got sam to change from that gg swampy
i dont even know what BH and sam are talking about with the paypal receipt lmao they are just bullshitting you all to cover their own backs **** em both

 

[LionMir]

Lmfao hahaha so true, i remember the warnings on skype from sam saying team was gonna be ingame looking for cheats. Also the drop files we recieved then some noob grassed us in after they got banned