PatchNotes 2.1

[jaffar91]

I'm always surprised how people can still complain about gameshop items on here. They're no way near what they used to be on some servers!

On servers I've played in the past there has been EVERY item and spell 40+ listed on an npc next to how much donation it would cost in pounds.


It seems like some players want a free to play game, without the option of purchasing or advertising anything... don't see many games on the app store like that??

 

[Doug]

Remove the moonlight cooldown man

 

[Xx69xX]

The simple solution was posted long back - to remove the player command and add it to an npc like bichon administrator.

Now people can't change guild without this penalty

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So during a lord fight, u start in BW. Leave guild via the NPC, RT to boss, ruin 20 weapons, once boss is dead u TT naturally back to the town and rejoin.

This idea, whilst good for a deep cave, is terrible for Lords, which is the only reason we are adding a cooldown.

-Apocalypse Team

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Remove the moonlight cooldown man 

I know! sorry, knew we'b miss a couple of bits, what's most annoying is, this was discussed as a quick fix, 15 minutes before we went live again, and it just got forgotten about.

I will get this resolved tonight, ready for next reboot.

Sorry!!!

 

[LightBringer]

So during a lord fight, u start in BW. Leave guild via the NPC, RT to boss, ruin 20 weapons, once boss is dead u TT naturally back to the town and rejoin.

This idea, whilst good for a deep cave, is terrible for Lords, which is the only reason we are adding a cooldown.

-Apocalypse Team

I am not 100% sure on what the deal is with the issue but on that premise, I could just create a char or use an alt and still grief then...?

 

[Xx69xX]

I am not 100% sure on what the deal is with the issue but on that premise, I could just create a char or use an alt and still grief then...?

Absolutely,

But then you are showing clear signs of grief, which we can deal with, leaving guild and going to fight, is not clear griefing.

Your point is a good one, but the answer is just simple then for us, much easier than trying to figure out if people have left guild, when they left, if they legitimately left. etc etc.

-Apocalypse Team

 

[Muh]

Or just make BW a warzone
No curses
No pk points


Why do you always do the long winded route nobody wants to do....honestly trying to cash in on grief play is almost as bad as grief itself.

Bw/warzone
Oma cave 2f/warzone
Zt 3/4/5 warzone
Sv warzone
Ww warzone

Outcome= better gameplay and a happier userbase.

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Also, 24 hours allows easy rolling of members, reduce the gg cost and up it to 48 hours if you dont plan to make the areas into warzones.

 

[Tai]

So during a lord fight, u start in BW. Leave guild via the NPC, RT to boss, ruin 20 weapons, once boss is dead u TT naturally back to the town and rejoin.

This idea, whilst good for a deep cave, is terrible for Lords, which is the only reason we are adding a cooldown.

-Apocalypse Team

Oh it's all about lords. So basically to protect C10/BS you have compromised everyone else?



What do you mean by ruin 20 weapons? Do you mean players taking off their gear running into AOE attacks naked? Because I don't see that happening.

Or do you mean player X getting cursed because player Y isn't in a guild? Because that's not griefing. Typing @leaveguild mid-fight is griefing, but that won't happen if the command is removed and it's all done by npc. You will clearly be able to see who is guilded and who is not from the outset and base your attacks accordingly.

 

[Muh]

Kicking players mid damage to curse luck 6 weps

HES BLIZZING KICK ME IM KITLESS N HE MAY CURSE

You sit in bw book sz tai walking in out griefing, i doubt any1 cares about your input buddy.

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P2w has become p2g
****ing pay to grief?

 

[Tai]

Kicking players mid damage to curse luck 6 weps

HES BLIZZING KICK ME IM KITLESS N HE MAY CURSE

So basically because your guilds are full of scummy ratbags the rest of the server has to pay the penalty? Shut up you pleb.

You sit in bw book sz tai walking in out griefing, i doubt any1 cares about your input buddy.

I think you're mistaking me with Hero

 

[SexyMama]

People were leaving guilds in lord fights to grief Lucked weapons.

For the short time until we decide on a perfect fix, this was in place to try and prevent griefing, we all know how hard this is to stop, this just aids it a small amount.

-Apocalypse Team

Why not make it so you have to go to palace to leave guild like chronicles did instead?

 

[TeenAgeDirtBag]

Hes already replied to that type of question with an answer...
"So during a lord fight, u start in BW. Leave guild via the NPC, RT to boss, ruin 20 weapons, once boss is dead u TT naturally back to the town and rejoin.

This idea, whilst good for a deep cave, is terrible for Lords, which is the only reason we are adding a cooldown."

Just wanted to start by saying until last night the server has seemed very steady recently.
You have clearly done a lot of work in between and it is appreciated!
Ignore the odd moaner about GG its very minimal on this server compared to others and that's why I like it.

I heard you said you would stop providing bosses to guilds following bugs within the server. I really hope you stick to this.
I know it must be hard but I really feel you shouldn't leak anymore information unless it is to the whole community, thus creating a level playing field.
Thanks again!

 

[ipwnu]

The guild thing simply needed the big boss fights to be made war zone. Any boss that shouts is in there purely for pk.
Mirking oks and lords are simply in place to give top guilds somet to fight over and simultaneously allows noobier guilds access to bosses.
just make it a war zone like sw where the pk bosses Spawn.
no one hunts 3/4 in zt no one hunts 2nd of oma cave.

 

[Aidonlee]

So basically because your guilds are full of scummy ratbags the rest of the server has to pay the penalty? Shut up you pleb.



I think you're mistaking me with Hero

I do spend most my time in BW to be fair.

 

[YOSHIMOTO]

Looking forward to trying the PS and Deception changes. Piercing shot range was awful

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I also think piercing shot should go through shield, has this been discussed?

 

[DiabloVodkaShot]

Good Morning,

Thank you for everybodies continued support. With regards to what is for the casual players, this will become apparent with the NPCS outside of caves over the next few days. We are just finalising the system to put in place to ensure it works smoothly.

With regards to the 24 hr cool down, it is a step in the right direction but we are going to look at other measures. At the end of the day anybody that claims it is p2w is a tool. What advantage do you gain from purchasing the reset book? What exactly makes you a winner there :P

On a more pressing note, it is important that we address the casual players, next... Keep your eyes out for the npcs.

 

[Veora]

Looking forward to trying the PS and Deception changes. Piercing shot range was awful

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I also think piercing shot should go through shield, has this been discussed?

This would be retarded if it went through shield, would literally 1 shot wizzies.

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Good Morning,

Thank you for everybodies continued support. With regards to what is for the casual players, this will become apparent with the NPCS outside of caves over the next few days. We are just finalising the system to put in place to ensure it works smoothly.

With regards to the 24 hr cool down, it is a step in the right direction but we are going to look at other measures. At the end of the day anybody that claims it is p2w is a tool. What advantage do you gain from purchasing the reset book? What exactly makes you a winner there :P

On a more pressing note, it is important that we address the casual players, next... Keep your eyes out for the npcs.

Not p2w, just a message to griefers: "You can grief... But you gots ta pay"

 

[Xx69xX]

Oh it's all about lords. So basically to protect C10/BS you have compromised everyone else?



What do you mean by ruin 20 weapons? Do you mean players taking off their gear running into AOE attacks naked? Because I don't see that happening.

Or do you mean player X getting cursed because player Y isn't in a guild? Because that's not griefing. Typing @leaveguild mid-fight is griefing, but that won't happen if the command is removed and it's all done by npc. You will clearly be able to see who is guilded and who is not from the outset and base your attacks accordingly.

Whilst i understand the concept behind your thoughts/idea, the point you make is the point we see live. Chat logs tell us this:

BichonLord Has Awoken....

@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild
@LeaveGuild


No joke lol!

Now whilst this seems like an npc fix would resolve this, the only thing this will resolve, is it happening in 10 seconds, it will happen in 30. People will just run to the NPC and leave guild.

Then go have the fight, and return, speak to NPC again.

Im not fussed if its the two big guilds or the solo guildless player, people getting intentionally grifed to a point where they dont wear there best weapons destroys some of the best fights in the game.

Lets be quite frank here.. As it stands right now, Bomb Squad and Curse 10 are the only 2 guilds actually killing the Lord, so if protection is in place to prevent their weapons being destroyed, you can see it like its only for them, but the minute a new guild take over, they receive the same protection.

I think there is defiantly room for a better implementation, and like we said, this is a band aid whilst we come up with our long term goal, but its not 1 that causes harm to the normal player.

-Apocalypse Team

 

[Robert]

Just code it so that when you leave a guild your attack mode is peaceful for an hour. Noone can complain at that and it solves the issue completely.

 

[Chriz]

Good update overall..

However I do think the 24 Hour cool down is unwarranted given the side effect it has on the many solely for the benefit of the few. (Unless high luck weapons are common place now?)

I mean if players really wanna keep their weapon safe.. leave it in storage or stay on brown/red mode.. I don't see the issue.

I haven't played in a while, If i log in now and the guild i'm in is dead.. I can leave it but then i'm solo for a day... will get bored and quit again :X

If it was my server I would look to apply a fight zone radius which follows the lord around.. Allows for a good fight without PK points/curses.

Will pop on and have a look at these new things for casuals.. peaked my interest!

Also is TS/FF useful yet for PVE or s it still no stun?

 

[Hercules]

Good Morning,

Thank you for everybodies continued support. With regards to what is for the casual players, this will become apparent with the NPCS outside of caves over the next few days. We are just finalising the system to put in place to ensure it works smoothly.

With regards to the 24 hr cool down, it is a step in the right direction but we are going to look at other measures. At the end of the day anybody that claims it is p2w is a tool. What advantage do you gain from purchasing the reset book? What exactly makes you a winner there :P

On a more pressing note, it is important that we address the casual players, next... Keep your eyes out for the npcs.

Interested to see what these NPCs do outside the caves? Instances for pussys?