Talk about files.
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lol so they can't promote the forum, post useful stuff, get projects going etc? Everything is done by the users.
New stuff comes from users, updates and everything else... None of the actual staff help by releasing new stuff since they are all keeping it for thier own servers.
Where's Milo? He used to post alot of news and files from the Chinese etc.
The staff don't even clean the forums let alone update it. True they can't force people to release thier work but there's one thing i've noticed that for a while now none of the staff actually have anything todo with mir. The releases, help and updates come from the users that are still interested in making it better.
New stuff comes from users, updates and everything else... None of the actual staff help by releasing new stuff since they are all keeping it for thier own servers.
Where's Milo? He used to post alot of news and files from the Chinese etc.
The staff don't even clean the forums let alone update it. True they can't force people to release thier work but there's one thing i've noticed that for a while now none of the staff actually have anything todo with mir. The releases, help and updates come from the users that are still interested in making it better.
Glad your using those smod powers for useful IP checkingwho's running CN now days? Anyone actually upto the job or just people who want to make sure thier ads are being spammed everywhere?
I actually got told it was you, then checked for myself. Also its my job seen as though its against the rules to have multiple accounts.
Still here, I dropped out of Mir for a while for various reasons. I still check out Chinese sites but most files are packed too well now to be useful and nobody ever took the opportunity to have a totally unique server with Heroes (Myself included there). If something noteworthy popped up I would release. Doubt anyone would use them though.
With regards to the state of the forum, I really believe in a more hands off approach. Let the community manage itself rather than coming down strict for every little infraction or fight that happens. If we were strict the forum would be even more dead because we'd of banned nearly everyone here including people who run the most successful Servers. In terms of promotion I'm not a marketing guy and wouldn't want to spam other forums or official Mir with links to ours so mostly we rely on word of mouth from the community.
In terms of promoting more people to staff pretty much everyone big in the community is tied to one server or another. I also doubt many of them would be interested. They are free to put themselves forward though.
In the end Mir itself doesn't have the same pull it used too and is pretty much relegated to being a small game for a dedicated community. There is loads of usable source code on LOMCN for anyone interested in competing with the big servers. I don't expect to see any of the closed source files being released any time soon unless they are leaked like the RubyM2 files were a while back.
LOMCN will plod on I reckon, hopefully someone will step forward to help advance files for everyone but in the end we can't force anyone.
Actually i just control a weighbridge/yard and drive a 20tonne excavator :P
Guidance my foot! "Lil doesnt do it for a living, he just codes tidier due to my crying like a baby!" - thats more beleivable!
bottom line is, its the coders that will make the clock work. if the coders decide to leave it upto 'someone else' then were just going to stay in the position we are in. Its not about guilt tripping the ones that have files and source into sharing, its about waiting to see if the other coders produce something... and if they dont, well thats just the way the cookie crumbles I guess. It's a game with history and means something to most people on the forum, but none the less its a game. Everyone will move on eventually... well most people
This is so false lil, I still remember your "hack" variables! And "while" loops! But I love you!
Everyone just read this paper!
Computer Programming as an Art
Everyone just read this paper!
Computer Programming as an Art
Did i says VB.NET is the way forward lol? It's been done in C# aswell which is the better option. I'm sorry did you code your source from scratch? OH wait that's right you've taken the messy delphi source and just ****ed it up even more well done
Just because i'm not posting here with 24/7 updates doesn't mean i've given up :P
Just because i'm not posting here with 24/7 updates doesn't mean i've given up :P
vb.. c#.. u rly think i care what it is?
yer ok, we took a "messy delphi source" and "****ed it up even more"... ok cool.
tell me what exactly is ****ed in our source? i mean, the game runs fine... we got lots of nice new updates... so our source vs any other source out there atm... or ur so called c# project thats been goin on since 2004... i think id rather have my messy ****ed up sources thanks
and as we said to you before, the source u are basin your assumptions off, is nearly 2years old, so pls stop making yourself look like such a fool.
I actually thought you were an ok lad, but after your little outbursts on here, u remind me off some1 like ramboone, a stuck up little twat that thinks he knows it all, when in reality hes all talk.. and a complete loser.
yer ok, we took a "messy delphi source" and "****ed it up even more"... ok cool.
tell me what exactly is ****ed in our source? i mean, the game runs fine... we got lots of nice new updates... so our source vs any other source out there atm... or ur so called c# project thats been goin on since 2004... i think id rather have my messy ****ed up sources thanks
and as we said to you before, the source u are basin your assumptions off, is nearly 2years old, so pls stop making yourself look like such a fool.
I actually thought you were an ok lad, but after your little outbursts on here, u remind me off some1 like ramboone, a stuck up little twat that thinks he knows it all, when in reality hes all talk.. and a complete loser.
lol Bon you haven't added anything to your source as i said you gave orders to your "team" you just manage it. 2004? The C# project was Matt's idea that never took off until Kyn, Damian and myself jumped on that was started this year.
Like i said if your team were any good you would of optimised the source, what specs does your server run on and how much cpu usage does it use up? Have you actually tried cleaning it up? Anyone can copy and paste from the other sources from the chinese with heroes etc and put it into the stable delphi source. That pretty much what you have done.
Yeah the source might be two years old but you still cried like a ***** when it got leaked until it was removed. As said before if it was bad two years ago would your coders really go back 2 years of bad coding to fix it all? No. It's not little outbursts but your sitting there slating other peoples work such as the VB.net source Jamie posted saying "you don't see the point" when your not the one actually doing anything on your server apart from using a dedicated server to run it.
You brought all this back up i was busy talking to Milo...
Like i said if your team were any good you would of optimised the source, what specs does your server run on and how much cpu usage does it use up? Have you actually tried cleaning it up? Anyone can copy and paste from the other sources from the chinese with heroes etc and put it into the stable delphi source. That pretty much what you have done.
Yeah the source might be two years old but you still cried like a ***** when it got leaked until it was removed. As said before if it was bad two years ago would your coders really go back 2 years of bad coding to fix it all? No. It's not little outbursts but your sitting there slating other peoples work such as the VB.net source Jamie posted saying "you don't see the point" when your not the one actually doing anything on your server apart from using a dedicated server to run it.
You brought all this back up i was busy talking to Milo...
No it isn't, the only people i've seen copy and pasting was Kyndigs (no offence Stephen but when we swapped sources them mob AI's were just a straight copy and paste). Not to mention, we don't code to chinese standards, so it would be pointless for us to copy and paste.
You go on about how badly they are coded;
#1 You have seen 2 year old sources
#2 I'd like to know from them what you considered to be so messy, show me an example of my work vs cheeky.
#3 How's unleashed going? Got a nice stable server running on that yet?
All in all, you don't actually know anything.
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Dam that bring thoughts lol , that was moons ago snice then lil has move all phili's mon code over.
But i will say your not giving matt much credit as hes kept the 4h code running.
Yeah becuase you don't code to any standards lol
#1 Really can't reply too but as i said AGAIN there won't be much improvement from 2 years ago to now. If it works you move on right?
#2 I'll dig your old source up again and show you.
#3 Actually go find DJ, he may of improved the engine but is running a server with the unleashed source - which are public :P (You'll need to be able to read spanish).
You can keep arguing but when the code (even if it is 2 years old) is staring me in the face i can see your so called standards and even for ametuer coders it's poor. You can see where you've looked at other functions and just used the same function to do another process bar changing afew variables. I know this because i did it when the delphi source was first ever released here and i worked with Cheeky and Nick.
#1 Really can't reply too but as i said AGAIN there won't be much improvement from 2 years ago to now. If it works you move on right?
#2 I'll dig your old source up again and show you.
#3 Actually go find DJ, he may of improved the engine but is running a server with the unleashed source - which are public :P (You'll need to be able to read spanish).
You can keep arguing but when the code (even if it is 2 years old) is staring me in the face i can see your so called standards and even for ametuer coders it's poor. You can see where you've looked at other functions and just used the same function to do another process bar changing afew variables. I know this because i did it when the delphi source was first ever released here and i worked with Cheeky and Nick.
Personally don't blame them, if it works then why not. Was just an example of the only time i've seen it happen.
2 years ago I had never been academically taught to code, plus 2 years ago I hardly did anything. It was mostly Shane.
All your doing is guessing, you don't know what's been changed, you're just assuming.
At the end of the day Carl, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. The code works, the server has been running over a year, me and Ben are happy with it. As for not coding to chinese standards etc, why would we? Ben knows what makes a good server, therefore we only implement what we feel will benefit the server.
Key example would be tigers, they are pretty much coded but we just don't use them. People teleport everywhere, so there is just no real need for them.
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You go on about theres messy stuff but cheekys stuff is only good bits, but cheeky never coded ne thing on the sources you have, was shane and matt. Cheeky done a bit of work a few months ago helping us increase HP and workin out the WIS spells.
We dont even have heroes on the server so how can we copy paste them? I mean, your once again giving these accusations about how crap our source is, but you dont even know whats in our source, so kindly shut up and **** off. As frankly, its none of your buisness, stop makin yourself look so jealous
And i have coded a few things in our source thank you very much, but yes, matt is the coder i do the ingame stuff
We dont even have heroes on the server so how can we copy paste them? I mean, your once again giving these accusations about how crap our source is, but you dont even know whats in our source, so kindly shut up and **** off. As frankly, its none of your buisness, stop makin yourself look so jealous
And i have coded a few things in our source thank you very much, but yes, matt is the coder i do the ingame stuff
lol... Did i say you copied hereos i think it was "any one can copy and paste from the chinese with heroes etc"
Matt i never said you code to chinese standards i said you don't code to any standards
Ben doesn't know **** lol - also i never said Cheeky has coded the only good stuff, i said the only decent coder you have is Cheeky. You can't read my comments yet you manage to code this server in Delphi? Hard to believe. It's even more laughable that Ben manages this server can you actually tell me how to server works Ben?
What did you code? The text on the interface saying donate @ FH.co.uk/shop?
Matt i never said you code to chinese standards i said you don't code to any standards
Ben doesn't know **** lol - also i never said Cheeky has coded the only good stuff, i said the only decent coder you have is Cheeky. You can't read my comments yet you manage to code this server in Delphi? Hard to believe. It's even more laughable that Ben manages this server can you actually tell me how to server works Ben?
What did you code? The text on the interface saying donate @ FH.co.uk/shop?